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AOL Copies Digg

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C.K.: Since it's our launch day and this story is top of the stack, we decided to look for more information. Getting a quote from Jason wasn't too difficult, nor was finding an interesting blog post on the issue, but we're still trying to track down a response from Kevin Rose.

Jason Calacanis (GM of Netscape): "We did not create the New Netscape to copy DIGG, no more than DIGG copied Delicious or Delicious copied Furl. All of these sites are evolutions of the first wave of bookmarking services. The key thing we are doing different is that we are having our editorial team followup on stories that make it to the top 20 list. We're not doing this to become gatekeepers, but rather to add a journalistic process to the power of social bookmarking. You can call this metajournalism or social journalism, and I think it's the logical next step.

"If the audience votes a negative story about AOL to the top of the list (like they did today--our first day!), we will follow up on it for our users. If the audience votes up a negative story about Netscape--like this one--we will follow up on that as well. I know this is very meta, but this is the evolution. Journalism-->Wisdom of Crowds-->Journalism--->Discussion=Better Journalism."


Mike from Newsvine commented on the launch in an interesting blog post, entitled Netscape Now!

I've emailed Kevin Rose and am awaiting a reply, so check back. In the meantime, a commenter named kevinrose (but who is not the real Kevin Rose; verified) says: " Now listen kids, heres the idea... Just because Digg came up with a great idea, that people love, does not mean that other sites cannot use the concept. The idea of voting for what is hot and what is not has been around for a very long time and just because I turned it into a news based format does not mean that I had the idea first. So, just back right off all the Digg clones and accept the fact that people are able to use and visit more than one website on the internet at a time. I love you guys... You are my best fanboys!"

As always, if you have any questions you'd like us to investigate, shoot us a comment below and we'll look into it.

Here's a related link in our system with Jay Adelson's response to Netscape.

2006-06-15 15:43:17

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How very Microsoft of you? Isn't this the same thing Microsoft did to the Navigator. "fate, it seems, is not without a sense of irony."

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Nice. All it needs now is more ADs.

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wow what a terrible terrible knock off of digg

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why did the number of votes drop? A bug, editor's call, or am I seeing things?

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It is acting a little buggy right now. I'm seeing the votes jump all over the place. We did pull the other digg.com story just so there weren't duplicates.

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Votes on this post just bounced from 9 to 24, so yeah, it's a little unstable right now, but that's what "beta" is all about.

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Take a dozen ads, squeeze them onto every single bloody page in the site and you get Netscape. Seriously guys--cut back on the annoying ads (try using Google-like text-ads) and I might consider coming back.

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We've been in beta for about 2.5 hours now ;) We're getting load from multiple diggs, netscpae.com, NYT, techcrunch, and god knows what else. Be patient ;)

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TIP: Putting an ad in the middle of the comments isn't going to get more people to view it; it's going to get more people to *block* it.

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God: We gotta have a couple of ads on the page.... right now we have like two. I think that's just fine. We could prob. do 3 or 4

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Having ads is fine. Having ads is understandable. Having ads in the middle of the comments, however, is just plain annoying.

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I don't mind the ad in the middle... you can scroll past it easily.

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you should definately move away from the ads in the middle. When I submitted my earlier comment, I thought it messed up because I didn't see it. However, it was found after scrolling through the add in the middle of the page.

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Yes, you can scroll past it. But that starts to get annoying when you have to do it whenever you load the page.

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i'll think about it... maybe we will put the leaderboard back up top and move the medium rectangle out. this is a beta... thanks for the advice :-)

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These pages dosn't have more ads than any other typical blog ala gawker, gothamist, engadget etc. I mean if all you do is hang out at virtually adless sites it's a bit to deal with but once you leave the cave and join most of the rest of the interweb world..you just shrug it off a par for the course. If the content is good who cares how they keep the lights on?

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I think the ad in the middle of the comments messes up the flow of the page and the conversation. Maybe try putting them between the end of the article and the beginning of the comments, sort of like how Slashdot does it...

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OMG this makes sick... TimeWarner taking out Digg.com .. its like Microsoft killing the Netscape Navigator in 1999... TimeWarner doesn't have any heart for anyone kinda like Microsft didnt have any heart when they put Internet Explorer into Windows 98. It wouldve been better if Netscape tried to take out YouTube or MySpace... but No they had to take out Digg.com would be funny if Yahoo! or google bought digg.com then who would be laughting all the way to bank then... another man's dream is another dead man's wish.

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before the fold, viewing the page, the comment ads are so big, they are the last thing i see... i may not even realize there are more comments. when ads compromise functionality and interface, that's not a good thing. If you do keep the comment area ad, why not make it text or style it into a blue/yellow comment area... less annoying for users, and probably more people will read them. win/win?

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You guys realize that Jason became VERY rich off of his adept placement of ads in websites. I think he knows a little bit about what he's doing.

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I think it's hilarious how there's a picture of Kevin Rose next to this article.

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use it.

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use it

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use it

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What I don't get is what's the point? Digg has a nicer interface, no graphic adverts, less visual clutter and it works. It's like comparing Google.com to Netscape.com, oh sorry you like visual clutter. Well users don't!

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What I don't get is what's the point? Digg has a nicer interface, no graphic adverts, less visual clutter and it works. It's like comparing Google.com to Netscape.com, oh sorry you like visual clutter. Well users don't!

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I hate it, if netscape had something viable instead of being just a browser, I could see it being used by me, this is just a revenue generating site now and a waste to me. If you ask, I'll stick with digg. Ohh, and if your looking for an something like netscape 7.2, but more optimized with similar features, check out donzilla. http://hh2k.homelinux.org/donzilla.aspx

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I think the frame you wrap around a website when you click on it is terrible. I dont want to read other websites like that, therefore I wont want to find stories on this new service... especially when the frame you put on a site is actually bigger than the site itself.

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and i dont see a link to see the comments past comment #20....

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Oh my lord, that frame wrap is just, wow.

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I also noticed the sudden drop in votes - guess that's why its still beta.

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>You guys realize that Jason became VERY rich off of his adept placement of ads in websites. I think he knows a little bit about what he's doing. I bet he could have made at least 50% more in ad revenue if he talked to a few people who really know how to monetize AdSense (like Andy Hagans, for instance). I have some sites that would pass a hand review that get about a 50% CTR on the ads and some people are surely far better than I. This site has too much gray-scale in it outside of the comments area. And the ads in the middle of the comments screwed me up too. I think above or below them is probably better from a user perspective.

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That totally ran my comment together. What happened to the spacing between the paragraphs? A shame Google abused the beta label, now it is sorta the standard to launch stuff too early without adequate testing.

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Well... Well... Look at what the sleeping giant dreamt up. Couldn't think of something on your own so you had to "borrow" digg's idea? I'm sticking to digg... Netscape ads are outrageously annoying. Oooo.. There's white space next to the "Add comment" box. Plenty of space to cram another 12 ads in for a free ipod. C-ya.

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Dear netscapesux, I have to interject here and point out that calling this site a thief of the Digg concept is like calling Digg a thief of the Delicious idea. They're similar, but not really the same, and while Digg is cool, it isn't really a new idea.

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digg.com still kills this ad laiden site! Nothing is more annoying than ads RIGHT in the middle of your content!

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hmmm .... digg.com seems pretty original to me. I don't think it's all that comparable to delicious ... a first of it's kind really. Now THIS is a direct copy ... even down to the UI ... I mean come on .. let's call this what it is ... the big guy trying to take out the little guy.

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Can someone explain why they'd frame content from other sites instead of letting people go there? Is there a way to get to an unframed page?

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stupidregistration, I disagree (of course, I'm somewhat biased). I mean, Digg doesn't have 30 channels, it isn't built on the template of a portal, and it doesn't have clear cut editorial commentary, and editor picks. I love Digg and use it all the time, but it's clearly geared towards a techie audience and I think we have something new to offer that can exist nicely alongside Digg, just as Delicious does. We're not trying to take Digg out. We think we'll actually bring more awareness and links to them. It's a win win scenario.

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I've been sending feedback since 10 minutes only to realize that it says: Error sending feedback on the bottom of the screen o_O

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zymurgy, you can click on the via link (underneath the title of the post) to go directly to the site sans Navigator.

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What a great time for Digg.com to go down for repairs..

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"Netscape Anchors". Ew, gross concept in the era of free-wheeling blog-style journalism. Don't you get it? No ANCHORS!! EVER!! Nice use of Ajax though, this has potential otherwise.

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Wonder if Kevin rose has Digg patented ....

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Flame me if you like. However when did getting a better(not saying this is) product inspired by others work a bad thing? For tens of thousands of years people made stuff they saw other people making and made it better. How do you think the wheel got made? Probably started with a square. Stop believing corperations who say they have a right to a thought. My $.02 Sean

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